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Dec 6, 2012 11:00am PST
when the obama administration says they're willing to go off the cliff if a deal is not reached on rates? >> i don't think it's a bluff. if you look at the reality of what happens, all the leverage which i -- right now clearly the white house has. they get more leverage if we go over their cliff. you can argue that would not send a good message to the country, to the world. it would prove that we are dysfunctional and cannot govern, et cetera, et cetera. in terms of dealing with the policy problem, which is you have this massive and growing debt, you have to bring in more revenues. there's multiple ways to do it, but critical ways to raise rates on the top end. it was what the election was about. republicans want to play the game where they think they get something. at the end of the day they lose worse if we go over the cliff. >> that's an interesting insight because you have alan simpson on the "today" show asked dp one side is a winner or loser off the cliff. here's what he had to say, chris. >> when you have leaders from the administration saying i think it's to the advantag
MSNBC
Dec 8, 2012 1:00am PST
it out. if republicans end up getting it, it's something the obama administration told john boehner they were willing to trade away if republicans end up getting it, that will feel like a big win for them. enough to unlock the tax deal. i'm not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that's a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the white house wants to get rid of forever. there's not been a lot of republican movement on the forever deal. i'm not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that's a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the white house wants to get rid of forever. there's not been a lot of republican movement on the forever deal. i'm not saying they are not going to get to a deal before the deadline, but don't be fooled by the posturing. there is a sailboat. it's coming clearer. joining us is the former budget director for the obama administration. vice chairman at citigroup, a veteran of these negotiations, thank you for being here on a friday night. >> good to be with you. >> peter, you
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 2:00am PST
of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington.
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00pm PST
about where wealthy folks are, with respect to the obama administration. and we saw all the data on wall street, the pendulum swinging away from barack obama towards mitt romney, how much of it is genuine self-interest in the sense of, just something as simple as the amount of taxes they will pay? >> i would say all of it. i really would. i would say all ofç it. the banks have two choices. four years ago, they had the choice between barack obama and they knew exactly who he was going to appoint in terms of ben bernanke and timothy geithner, the combination of the team that had saved the world from utter financial collapse. and that's what they knew they needed. and john mccain, on the other hand, was running around like a headless chicken, and they were scared, they were petrified he would become president, especially with his vice presidential candidate. so they voted in their self-interest, because they knew that the system needed to be saved. now that the system is saved is, they just want to pay less taxes. >> that gets to this question of narrow self-interest versus broad self-int
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 8:00pm PST
for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of issuing a response if a petition gathering 25,000 signatures in 30 days has caught the attention of the internet trolls. it was the forum used by over 100,000 texans to secede from the united states, which resulted in another petition to withdraw. anything can happen. you can see where this is going. but there's one petition on the site that we here at "the ed show" can certainly get behind. it's a substantial stimulus project that would create millions of jobs, boost america's steel industry, got to love that, expand our space program, and basically guarantee our national security. what could be better? someone has petitioned the administration to build a death star. the fictional moon-size space base capable of destroying entire planets from "star wars." just under 2,000 people have signed the petition to ask president obama to secure the resources to construct a death
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 11:00am PST
groups, some have close ties to al qaeda and the obama administration didn't want to give the recognition to that particular group. in recent days, they have identified one group and put that down on the terror list and to all the other groups, we put them down as terrorists. we are happy to have the rest of you as long as you keep them out of the picture. some of the other countries that have given the syrian rebels as a larger umbrella. they are not making that distinction. it's a bit of a fine legalistic point. >> we're know the importance of needing to make that. it is linked as an affiliate of al qaeda that the president feels are a representation of the syrian people. >> about a month ago, they got the rebels together and said listen. they had lots of political differences and the united states essentially said you have to get your act together. come to an agreement and a month later that is happening in morocco. the u.s. and the obama administration feels comfortable saying we are with you guys. >> what about the news we just got that the officials have confirmed for the first time
MSNBC
Dec 9, 2012 11:00am PST
of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort of -- that -- i think for the obama administration, that's a line that they would have trouble defending their passivity so far if assad crossed. that's a hard one. it's hard for me to imagine them not doing anything. >> but given that they haven't really done very much over the past 21 months, and they haven't done very much at all, it's not implausible that they would not do the declarative thing of invading or stopping the use of chem
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 10:00am PST
possibly in the future lead to theent duction of american military forces. the obama administration is right they don't want to go into syria. they have avoided a u.s. military intervention but chemical weapons changes everything in the calculation. the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you. >> it's important to remember what susan said was based on the information that had been given to every senior official. in our administration. and she made very clear in her appearances that the information was subject to change, as more facts were gathered and analyzed by the intelligence community and looked, as often the case, our understanding evolved over time. and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. >> so obviously, secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of sus
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 1:00pm PST
not, no. it's farcical. this is a generation al issue and the obama administration is going to have to gibe at some point on its theory of law. i think a couple days the u.s. attorney in washington said the federal law trumps what you guys are going. people are going to say no, enough. and the obama administration just started ramping up prosecutions of this. this is unusual for me. >> yeah. do you agree, goldie? >> i do, except heroin is making a comeback and that's really unfortunate. but do i think the legalization of marijuana will increase its usage, i don't. people who want to partake, are already partaking. so i think that we ought to just remove the gloves, let people do what they want to do in the privacy of their own homes. free up our police to direct their things to things that are much more important. these people aren't going to get in the car and drive. hell, they can't even kind their far keys after a good joint. so the issue really is about criminalizing things and making a pathway for our young boys, chiefly boys, from the high school straight to prison. that pipel
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 6:00am PST
on debt deal making, whether he wants to work for the obama administration and his pal simpson's newfound love for deficit hawk gangnam style. plus, what will had hillary clinton do next. the secretary of state's future. some of clinton's closest allies are keeping very quiet which actually was surprising. good morning. from washington it's monday, december 10, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we're in double digits in december. what does that mean? it means we're finally at the serious phase of the fiscal negotiations. three weeks to go before the proverbial fiscal cliff. actually it's not proverbial. so-called, right? let's not hope this becomes proverbial. anyway, the president's photo-op of the day will be at a suburban detroit auto plant. >> if we're serious about protecting middle class families and we're going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. the. >> the president is in detroit, daimler will announce a big $100 million investment to expand u.s. production in jobs. it's the real reason he w
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 1:00pm PST
but to agree to the other side of the debate. everybody agrees that the obama administration has won the debate on the met ta issue right now. and that is the tax rates. they won the debate. once you solve that issue, it's a question of finding another 500 or 600 billion in tax cuts. which i think the two sides are not that far. but they can find that money. the point here is i think this deal is largely done. and i think this is mostly theatrics. and all a function of the fact that boehner is a weak speaker and he has to slow walk his caucus into this position that they've lost when everybody already knows they lost the debate. >> but jared, here's the question. the president appears to still be compromising or willing to compromise even though as julian just says, there's really no engagement from speaker boehner in terms of substantive change. we had the president talking of increasing from 400 to 600. he's talking about corporate tax reform. all of these things are things the president is compromising on. what's boehner doing? >> actually, i think that there is no deal absent compromise. an
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 2:30am PST
to the ongoing violence in syria. in a major diplomatic shift for the united states, the obama administration is now formally recognizing the syrian rebels in an effort to put an end to president bashar al assad's rule. president obama made the announcement in an interview with abc news just hours before a meeting of syrian opposition leaders and their international allies in morocco. >> we've made a decision that the syrian opposition coalition is now inclusive enough, is reflective and representative enough of the syrian population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime, and so we will provide them recognition. and obviously, with that recognition comes responsibilities on the part of that coalition -- >> that's a big step. >> it is a big step. there is a small element of those who oppose the assad regime that are, in fact, affiliated with al qaeda in iraq, and we have designated them as a terrorist organization, and we are going to make clear to distinguish between those elements of the opposition. >> well, despite recogni
MSNBC
Dec 8, 2012 11:00am PST
marijuana law, the obama administration is considering ways to crack down on the reforms. top officials are looking at how to use the federal government to reverse the impact of the new laws, according to a report in "the new york times." now the options include denying federal grants to states that legalize pot, aggressively prosecuting pot users in those two states under the federal laws, or most controversially, just taking these states to court. then the administration could get a formal ruling that the federal laws against pot just cancel out these new state laws. all those proposals are premised on fighting against the new politics and spirit that has been take hold in these states. but the obama administration could also embrace this as a moment to rethink the entire drug war. it could ask congress to at least lower marijuana's current classification as a schedule 1 substance. that is the anachronistic and grave category for drugs like heroin, which have no prospect of safe or medical use. or look, the administration could do for pot what it did for children of undocumented worke
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 12:00am PST
by january 1, 2014. meanwhile, the obama administration is pressuring states to expand medicaid coverage as outlined by obama care. the health care law calls for medicaid to be expanded to anyone who earns up to 133% of the poverty line. under the law, the federal government would cost -- would cover the cost of new enrollment until 2016. then their share would be dropped to 90% by the year 2022. nine states have said no to expansion, despite the huge federal funding. and some states want partial expansion. but today, the administration said no way. states must expand medicaid all the way if they want to receive full obama care funding. let's turn to the former director of the office of consumer information and insurance oversight, with the health and human services department. and also msnbc contributor e.j. dion, "washington post" columnist and author of "our divided political heart." thanks for joining us tonight. jay, these health insurance ex-change, where have they important and what does it mean if states say they're not going to go down this road? >> they're important, because th
MSNBC
Dec 8, 2012 12:00am PST
. unemployment hit rock bottom near the beginning of the -- under the bush administration. you can see this right here. and this of course the changing the color here is when president obama took over in january of '09. who is responsible for this turnaround? >> absolutely the president. and it would be a better turnaround if the republicans had allowed a bigger stimulus. we'd have many more jobs. >> you'd make the case we didn't spend enough on the economy? >> not only did we not spend enough, but we wasted 40% of it on tax cuts for small business, which is inherently savings and not stimulus. it was a real policy mistake. >> so considering where we are, and now 33 months of private sector job growth, is this historic? >> it's certainly we're going in the right direction, ed. we're not creating as many jobs as we need for the population growth, but it's astonishing we're recovering the way we are and if the republicans would stop creating the uncertainty, remember the uncertainty by not making a deal, we'd see the numbers improving very dramatically. >> well, let me ask you in terms of the stabi
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm PST
is switching mightily in his face from the obama administration. >> i guess he's proof that you can be a billionaire and not particularly clef. ken vogel and professor dyson, i'm sorry, ken's feed to us has broken down but we're grateful to his contribution as always. >>> next, has fox news put a sock in two of the right's biggest mouths? stay with us. >> where is your -- this proposal is an inassault. this is is like stalin [ bleep ] the bald eagle. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles ] [ male announcer ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharmacists and other health professionals who helped us achieve the highest average star rating among national medicare companies... and become the first and only national medicare advantage company to ach
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm PST
down was if the obama administration cooked the books.
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 11:00am PST
federal law, federal right to marry. but while the obama administration has made the position clear in one of those cases, one involving the defensive marriage act is silent on the other which takes on california's prop 8. according to politico, the court's decision to take the case puts pressure on the president saying, quote, obama never rejected the notion that the u.s. constitution could protect the right of gays and lesbians to marry but repeated description of the issue of one best handled by the states seems to undercut the idea that the supreme court should declare a federal right to same-sex marriage. joining me is former white house adviser to president obama. also, quoted multiple times in this particular article i was referencing, richard. thank you for joining me. in the article they quote you as saying i think the federalizes the issue much more quickly than the white house would have liked and may force them to take a position earlier than they would have liked. >> right. well, we remember back it was just last may when president obama said that he personally supported the r
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 3:00pm PST
over the fiscal policy winds down, the obama administration will begin an all-out drive for comprehensive immigration reform, including seeking a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. we will see then where the repub lip cans are. what do you hope to see in the immigration reform if it is real and meaningful to bring us toward a better place in the country, mr. mayor? >> my hope is that comprehensive immigration reform will be just that. it's going to be comprehensive. it's going to include additional mushes that we secure our borders. it's going to include ways to work with employers so that we ensure that fewer employers hire folks who are here undocumented. and, third u it's going to include a pathway to citizenship, to full citizenship, for the 11 or 12 million folks who are here who are undocumented, illegal, whatever term folks want to use. who i believe should be addre addressed and we've heard in the last couple of weeks, some heartburn among republicans who are now just starting to consider the idea of comprehensive immigration reform as to whet
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 5:00pm PST
the unemployment rate under president obama's administration. which of the president's policies have helped the most in this? >>. well very crucial to this has been his decision to get congress to extend unemployment benefits surprisingly. because when people have the money are spending it back in the economy. every 50th person you meet statistically only has food stamps today as income. and that's the result of these years of the republicans policies. so having unemployment and extendsing benefits next year would be important to bring the number down and having businesses hire more people because they have customer with money. >> if congress failed to pass the recovery act, the center on budget and policy priorities says we have added almost 1 million more jobs because of the stimulus package. why are the republicans fighting stimulus spending now? why? is it they don't want to see president obama succeed or do they believe spending more money is not the right thing to do? >> i think both of those are true. they do not want him to succeed. there's no question about that. they are certain s
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 6:00am PST
in recess. the obama administration says, no. the sessions are a sham. they last less than a minute. the congress or the senate when it decided to do this passed an order saying that no business would be conducted during these pro forma sessions. what are more do you need? the senate says we'll decide whether we're in recess or not and we say we're not, and not only that in the early part of the recess from december of last year to january of this year, the senate actually passed an extension to the payroll tax cut. so is the senate in recess or not? and this is it either going to go to the supreme court, chuck, or the courts are going to say, you know what, we can't -- this is a dispute between the political branches. you guys work it out. i don't think it's 100% clear whether the courts will decide they can decide this question. >> that seems odd. i want to throw up a graphic. obama has actually done fewer, 32. he had fewer opportunities. bush 43 did 99. clinton 95 of them. isn't this destined for the supreme court? if you have the legislative branch and the executive branch disag
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 7:00pm PST
earlier today with andrea mitchell. not quite willing to discuss his future at this point. the obama administration could announce appointments to his national security team some time in the next two weeks. according to administration officials and john kerry's name obviously is floated for two positions, secretary of defense and secretary of state. joining john kerry on the short list to replace leon panetta at the pentagon is former republican senator chuck hagel who met with president obama at the white house this week. as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i thinkç it's a good faith efforts to take in a wide range of views. we know that president obama in his first term, obviously, went with secretary gates d
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 8:00am PST
're willing to do this. is this the fight that the obama administration really wants to take up freshly inaugurated, freshly into its new term to try to map out big, bold leadership instead of digging these trenches down the line that are going to have pitfalls and stakes all buried in it? >> i come from the school of thought that this country has overcome a lot more than just a few extra dollars. i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe that we're going to go into a huge, deep recession again if these bush tax cuts expire. i do believe that you can strengthen the economy if you let everything go off the cliff and come back and put in front of the american people and do a better job for the economy. there's up side either way you go. the president has got boehner in an untenable position. he doesn't have very many avenues to a victory right now but he's got a good escape, thomas. all john boehner has to do to exit out of this quickly is to say he won the election, we didn't, the american people in every survey sa
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 9:00am PST
of the attempt of the obama administration, correctly, to try to you know force the republicans to play ball on their terms, reality is, the collateral damage done to the poor in the meantime is so devastating, because the margin of reserve for those middle class, even compared to the poor is more significant than when you're making a dollar that you talked about and you've got go there -- i was on food stamps for three years i understand what it means to be on food stamps. most people are on welfare for two years or less, they use it as a stopgap measure. most people do not pimp the system. the perception is they pimp the system. you ain't doing much pimping on food stamps. about your a low rent pimp if you're on food stamps. >> alex? >> go ahead. >> reporter: i understand michael's point but i think he's giving obama -- underselling obama's effectiveness so far a little bit. obama doesn't talk a lot about the poor but in the negotiations, especialfully 2010, the president, his team, gene sperling and others were effective in protecting poor people's programs, and benefits, and i think they
MSNBC
Dec 8, 2012 4:00am PST
benefits that other married couples get. after supporting defense of marriage act the obama administration concluded last year it violates the constitution. >> we cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting a thumb on the scale against same-sex couples. >> house republicans are now taking up the law's legal defense. supporters say it helps preserve traditional marriage. >> unions of two men or two men are not the same as a marriage between a man and a woman. only marriage between man and a woman can connect children to their mother and father and their parents to the children. >> now, alex, the fact the court has agreed to take up both questions, including the one from california, could mean the justices are prepared to get to the constitutional heart of the same-sex marriage issue. if it did that, that might result in what would essentially be the roe v. wade of gay rights. alex. >> taking up this prop 8 with california, would their ruling necessarily apply then only to california? >> that's possible. it's possible, because the appeals court
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 7:00pm PST
, and the defense of marriage act which the obama administration now refuses to defend in court. and so as soon as president clinton was out of office, the tax code he had rewritten to be more progressive was immediately rewritten by this guy to be less progressive. when george w. bush rewrote the clinton tack rates tax rates to be friendlier to the rich, some democrat in the house and in the senate voted for the new tax rates. there was no lasting clintonian to hold against the bush tax cuts. some democrats voted for the bush tax rates. so nothing of reaganism, whatever that was, lived after the reagan presidency and nothing of clintonism lived after the clinton's presidency. what, then, of gingrichism, newt gingrich was in congress during all three of the presidencies we've considered here. reagan, the first bush, and clinton. during the republican years when republicans started drifting towards agreements to raise taxes, newt gingrich attacked those republicans. he wasn't willing to take on president reagan head on but in 1984 he actually called senator bob dole, quote, the tax collector for
MSNBC
Dec 11, 2012 1:00pm PST
brackets is bad economics. >> the obama administration is accepting corporate donations to help pay for next month's inauguration ceremony. on the bright side, the ceremony is being renamed the toes at the tees pepper jack scoops presidential throw down. >> white house is decorated and from the looks of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after president obama embraces a rapper once calling for the death of innocent americans. >> he was caught on camera shaking his hand. he's not going to stand up for our brave men and women in the military? that's pretty sad. >> we have specifics coming out of our eyeballs. i'm very confident we can take the smat. we're doing to win this race because people know we need a better fu
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 12:00pm PST
the government money. the chatter is being stirred by knowledgeable washington journalists saying the obama administration may be ready to include these in a fiscal cliff deal with republicans. whatever negotiations are taking place between the president and speaker john boehner, whatever each side is prepared to give up a a level of security. it's totally possible the white house actually has no intent on messing with medicare or social security benefits. but for the left the chatter is ominous. it's coming from well sourced reporters and we've been down this road before. the pursuit with john boehner in 2011, obama was willing. there's reason to suspect there's something to all this chatter. and the question then becomes why? why would obama who simply by doing nothing these next few weeks could get the tax hike on the wealthy he's been demanding without touching medicare and social security? why would he entertain such drastic changes to the safety net? most likely culprit is the dreaded debt ceiling. here's why. republicans came to these talks with no leverage. the consequences of doing
MSNBC
Dec 9, 2012 5:00am PST
of the center of american progress who served in the obama and clinton administrations, policy director of hillary clinton's campaign. laura flanders, founder of grittv.com. the editor of salon.com and the woman who hired me two years ago. thanks, as always for that. >> of course. >> anyway, on friday afternoon, house speaker john boehner attempted to paint a picture of white house negotiations and how to avoid going over the fiscal curve. i have been saying fiscal slope. now on the show, i'll go with curve. >> this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. four days ago, we offered a serious proposal based on testimony from president clinton's former chief of staff. there's been no counter offer from the white house. instead, reports i understand kate the president adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk the economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the extremely vague republican proposal did not include an increase in tax rates a position he reiterated on friday making clear there's no movement on the white house's red line on treasury secretary tim geithner
MSNBC
Dec 9, 2012 9:00am PST
for secretary clinton and the director of the security counsel. what is the obama administration's red line on the chemical weapons? >> i think the president announced it last september and he repeated it last week. the secretary of state has done so as well. if check cal weapons are used, this becomes a red line and becomes something as the president said a few months ago, changes his cal cue louse. i think we have been out there very clearly saying that use chemical weapons and everything is going to change in terms of the possibility of american intervention. >> we have been talking about those words. what is the u.s. willing to do? are we specifically talking act boots on the ground? >> i suspect we are not talking boots on the ground. there are probably ways to get at this without that, probably from the air. i think we are probably also coordinating closely with turkey, jordan and israel because all of those countries have a profound concern, if in fact, chemical weapons are used or control is lost. >> when we talk about the chemical weapon, there's an article that says they are skept
MSNBC
Dec 9, 2012 12:00pm PST
morsi under a microscope, has been for some time. in the washington post say, the obama administration has been morsi's main enabler. what with role should this country play in egypt? >> look, i think we're going to have to walk a very fine line. on one hand, we could cut aid and condition assistance on democratic behavior, but then again, we're going lose whatever influence we have. i mean, i would argue the following. number one, our assistance to the egyptian military needs to continue, otherwise you might just as well hang a closed for the season sign on american influence in the country. at the same time, i do believe we should begin to start conditioning american economic systems on morsi's democratic behavior and performance. number three, we really ought to start speaking out and up much more loudly than we have in the past. morsi was due to come here this month. he's not coming. it's just as well. if, in fact, he comes in january, i'm not even persuaded that visit shouldn't be held or conditioned on the reality of trends within egyptian society on morsi's part that are much mo
MSNBC
Dec 8, 2012 7:00am PST
. this is the sfas where finally we can begin to kind of make some room. >> there are numbers that the obama administration is acutely aware of. the number is this. more people in colorado voted to legalize marijuana than voted for barack obama. >> including 40% of colorado republicans. >> more people voteded in alabama for medical marijuana than for barack obama. that will get people's attention. it is like gay marriage. that train is not going back to the station. we are getting to a moment where politicians are going to have to ask themselves, are you going to be the one known to be the last one to burn a witch? >> it also comes down to empirical evidence. we need to, if it's available, we need to have -- be approached with the numbers. politicians react to good empirical evidence. remember, if you're talking politics, remember what you have. you have a law enforcement, a very powerful based group. it is very difficult to get elected in a city if law enforcement is against you. you have law enforcement squarely against legalizing marijuana. that's the viewpoint there. if you are talking p
MSNBC
Dec 10, 2012 3:00am PST
think the obama administration, from the beginning, joe, has been making what i call a cosmic bet that islamists, people in parties like the muslim brotherhood, if they experience governing, if they get elected and are responsible for the growth of the economy, the welfare of the people, will bend and will become more responsible parties and then we'll have a peculiros where egypt looks more like turkey. >> but david, that's obviously not the case. what's the difference between supporting a dictator in egypt named morsi versus supporting a dictator in egypt named mubarak? >> well, you got it. there isn't much difference. i would say that morsi has been elected by the egyptian people in what most observers think were democratic elections, and more to the point, morsi is a product of a revolution that caught up all egyptians. this has been a couple years of real change there. so morsi carries the hopes of those people. it's just that he's -- you know, it's gone to his head. he's on a power trip, i think, and it's time for the tous just s u.s. to just say that flat out. >> jon meacha
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Dec 5, 2012 3:00am PST
and let that breathe in for a second? let's breathe that in for a second. the obama administration has basically -- basically, they are tony blair to george w. bush's margaret thatcher. they have said, we have to keep 98% of the bush tax cuts in place for the betterment of the economy. >> it's so much bigger than that. >> they have won. >> republicans won. >> we have won. tax breaks. >> so to give a couple of percentage points to 2% of people. >> it could be so much bigger because the conversation has been shifted to how do we reduce our deficit. >> brian sullivan, thank you so much. greatly appreciate your insights. thanks for being with us on "way too early." you can catch brian on cnbc's "street signs" at 2:00 p.m. he is the hardest working man in show business, or at least on the other side of the river. >>> coming up this morning, we've got republican senator tom coburn. can't wait to talk to tom. also, tom cole will be here on set. that's great. we're going to ask him what he was thinking last week. i'm joking. congressman. also, democratic senator claire mccaskill. can you belie
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Dec 6, 2012 3:00am PST
past the hour. time now to take a look at the "morning papers." "the new york times," the obama administration secret arms shipments to qatar to help overthrow moammar gadhafi. according to "the times," some of those weapons were turned over to islamic militant groups. the support from qatar helped destabilize gadhafi's regime, but american officials remain concerned over where the arms ended up. >> "the wall street journal," egypt descending into political turmoil after another night of intense clashes on the doorsteps of the presidential palace. it's the largest confrontation since the revolution that overthrew hosni mubarak. critics say he's rushing through a constitution with an islamic agenda. >>> u.s. and russian senior diplomats will meet today with the united nations peace envoy for syria in an attempt to end the civil war there. this comes as pentagon sources tell nbc news there is intelligence suggesting the syrian government has loaded sarin gas into aerial bombs and awaiting command from president assad for its use. >>> and from our parade of papers, "the san francis
MSNBC
Dec 7, 2012 3:00am PST
the hour. we'll start with "the wall street journal." military officials and the obama administration want greater flexibility to launch operations against terror groups in africa. the operations would target al qaeda-related groups in countries like mali, nigeria, libya and others. >>> and "the oregonian," it was 71 years ago today that pearl harbor was bombed by the japanese in a surprise attack. 2,400 americans were killed. thousands will gather today to remember the raids with a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m., the exact time the bombings began in 1941. and when they began, my grandfather was on "the maryland." >> wow. >> my dad always took us out there. >>> let's go to "the seattle times." despite a federal ban, washington state's law allowing recreational marijuana described as one of the most liberal in the world went into effect midnight last night. the state will start licensing farms and retail stores to grow and sell marijuana next year. police across the state are said to be taking a laissez-faire approach. >> where's that willie geist? actually, that's heilmann. you know, i'm s
MSNBC
Dec 12, 2012 3:00am PST
." in a major diplomatic shift for the united states, the obama administration his now formally recognizing syrian rebels in an effort to end assad's regime. the u.s. doesn't plan to provide arms to the rebels. >>> and from our parade of papers, "the dallas morning news." north korea has defied international warnings, firing another long-range rocket. the second such launch under new leader kim jong-un. korean state tv claims the launch was successful and that the rocket delivered a, quote, peaceful satellite into orbit. >>> this is a big morning now. >> it is. he's here. >> he's here in the flesh in new york city in the studio. >> 12-12-12. happy 12-12-12. >> top 12 reasons, something. >> willie and i since 11-11-11 -- >> i was watching you. >> and we're, like, on the holiday inn over on 57th. we're going to be ready when it's 12-12-12 because that's going to be a special day. we'll make a top 12 list of the things a man should do to -- >> and we want to get this right. >> we're going to get it right. >> because we were so wrong about y2k. >> we really were. >> the millennium. >> we really
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